It is nearly three months since Yes Scotland lost the independence referendum but for many the dream refuses to die.
As the SNP conference takes place in Perth and Nicola Sturgeon steps into Alex Salmond’s shoes as First Minister, there are still plenty who believe the campaign has only just begun, particularly in Dundee.
It was dubbed “Scotland’s Yes city” and there are still plenty of flags and posters on display showing support for independence has not dropped.
Douglas taxi driver John Taylor is just one of those who believes it is now a question of when, not if, Scotland becomes independent.
He flies a hugh Yes Saltire from a flagpole in his garden and also a large Yes Scotland sign attached to his fence – and has no intention of taking them down any time soon.
“It’s a passion,” he told The Courier.
“Support for independence is growing. I’ve always flown a flag and won’t be taking it down.”
In fact, John will soon be showing his support for another independence movement by putting up a Catalonian flag.
“We want to be able to rule ourselves, that’s what it’s all about,” he said.
On the other side of Dundee, Morag Lennie has been fighting for Scottish independence all her life.
There are still Yes posters in the window of her flat and a Saltire flies outside her front door.
Even her car is covered in Yes Scotland livery.
“Those posters will stay up until May when SNP posters will go up for the General Election,” she said.
Ms Glennie said she believes the independence campaign has changed the nature of Scottish politics entirely.
She now wants to use that energy to create a food co-operative in Dundee.
“I don’t always like Dundee, but I was proud of it on the 19th,” she said.
She said her support for independence is based on her socialism.
“Children in Dundee should not be going to bed hungry,” she said.