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EXCLUSIVE: ‘Genuine alarm’ among Dundee fans says Patrick Barclay as he addresses open letter aims

Dundee-supporting journalist Patrick Barclay (left) with Dens chiefs John Nelms and Tim Keyes (right).
Dundee-supporting journalist Patrick Barclay (left) with Dens chiefs John Nelms and Tim Keyes (right).

Dundeeā€™s relegation was not a surprise to many fans of the club.

The Dark Blues had been spiralling towards the Championship for much of the season.

There was hope they could turn things around, but little surprise when the relegation trapdoor opened and Dundee fell through.

Simmering below what was happening on the pitch was serious discontent in the stands.

That came to a boil in the second half of the season, with fan walk-outs after just 18 minutes against Livingston and abuse aimed at managing director John Nelms and new manager Mark McGhee.

A more measured approach from a concerned group of fans came shortly afterwards in the form of an open letter.

Dundee fans head for the exits after just 18 minutes against Livingston.

More than 1,300 fans signed it and a to-and-fro followed between the group and Nelms. For a little while, anyway.

The letter called for supporter representation at board level, utilising the wide-ranging expertise among the fanbase and an AGM, so shareholders could ask questions of the board. These suggestions were not heeded by the club chief.

There has since been a fresh bid to elicit change at Dens Park but, once again, no reply forthcoming.

‘Genuine alarm’

That was in late March. Now it is mid-May and Dundee are heading down again.

Of course, supporters’ misgivings have not gone away.

And there is still ā€œgenuine alarm at the state of the clubā€ among the fanbase.

A prominent member of the group behind the open letter is former Guardian, Independent, Sunday Telegraph and Times football writer Patrick Barclay.

Despite spending 40 years covering English football as one of the countryā€™s most respected football writers, the Dundonian maintains a deep love for his hometown team.

Sportswriter and Dundee fan Patrick Barclay pictured with Dundee legend Bobby Seith as he promoted his biography of Sir Matt Busby at Malmaison in the city in 2018.

Though he makes clear there is no ā€œanti-John Nelms or anti-Tim Keyesā€ agenda among the group, he insists things have to change to make Dundee a ā€œfamilyā€ again.

ā€œBasically we are trying in the first instance to get the basics right,ā€ the former Sky Sports Sunday Supplement regular said.

ā€œWe donā€™t want anything special and I want to be very clear we are absolutely not anti-John Nelms or anti-Tim Keyes or anti-anybody for that matter.

ā€œWe are very aware of everything Keyes and Nelms have done, thereā€™s nothing to suggest anything they have done isnā€™t with the clubā€™s best interests at heart. They are Dundee fans and we accept them as that.

ā€œThere is no enmity from our group in that regard but there is genuine alarm at the state of the club.

Dissatisfaction

ā€œI donā€™t think John Nelms realises how severe the dissatisfaction is among the fans.

ā€œI canā€™t be at every game because I live in London but the last game I was at was the Rangers cup game.

ā€œThat was the worst experience any fan can have. It was humiliating to be outnumbered five or six to one by an away support. It was genuinely a horrible experience.

Dundee fans stayed away from the cup defeat to Rangers when season tickets were not valid.

ā€œBut the teamā€™s performances this season are linked to the way the club is run. The atmosphere is horrible among the players and that is directly due to the way things are run.

ā€œPeople moaned about James McPake but weā€™re now seeing it wasnā€™t his fault, people moan about Mark McGhee but heā€™s managed over 900 games, so heā€™s no mug.

ā€œThe agony of the supporters is directly linked to the way the club operates.ā€

Family

He added: ā€œAll we wanted to do was make suggestions that may be helpful to the club.

ā€œA football club should be like being in a family.

ā€œClubs like Manchester United grew into worldwide clubs because they were a family. Arsenal did the same way back when Herbert Chapman was there.

ā€œThat applies to clubs at every level, you have to be a family to thrive. We are not a family.

A dejected Cammy Kerr at full-time after losing to St Mirren.
A dejected Cammy Kerr at full-time after losing to St Mirren.

ā€œIf Dundee in 2021/22 is a family then they arenā€™t the kind of family you want living next door!

ā€œWe are all in this together and we must behave like that.

ā€œBut sorting out some of these problems must be done quickly because the Championship will not be easy next season.ā€

Proper dialogue

The group behind the open letter sent further correspondence to club chiefs in April, though they didn’t make that public at the time.

That was ahead of the crucial St Johnstone clash with relegation on the line. Since their demotion has now been confirmed, the group published the letter online.

The Americans have not responded at time of writing.

Barclay, though, is keen to engage club chief Nelms in some sort of dialogue to bridge the divide that exists between the fans and owners.

Dundee owner Tim Keyes (L) and managing director John Nelms.

ā€œI would like to see John on behalf of the club reply to our most recent letter,ā€ Barclay added.

ā€œInitiate a proper form of dialogue, some kind of brainstorming session if you like, with fans.

ā€œThere is nothing special about us but we have 1,300 people with all sorts of different experience willing to help the club.

‘Critical friend’

ā€œThe initial reaction from the club was predictably opaque and bland. It was kind and polite but it didnā€™t accept any points we made or address any of them.

ā€œTake the example where the response said there had already been consultation with fans. If they think one meeting per month with the DSA is fan consultation then they have not seen how it works elsewhere across Britain.

ā€œHuge clubs as well as tiny clubs do it. You look at the top of the game and at Liverpool it is a serious part of their business. I see at the other end of the scale at Kingstonian FC where they have crowds in the 100s but they still manage to have proper fan consultation.

ā€œThe sheer number of signatories (to the open letter) was a surprise. But that shows the depth of the discontent.

ā€œClearly we as fans have a financial power in this situation but we donā€™t want to use it.

ā€œWe want a collegiate approach to work together.

ā€œThe message we want to make clear is we are all in this together.

ā€œWe are trying to be a critical friend.ā€

Dundee owners yet to reply to SECOND open letter from fan group